Tuesday, June 24

Have Ur Say!!!

It was a chat which took place between a friend (D here)of mine and me, and she wants to know how you all think about this!!!
So read this and I am waiting to hear all of you on this!!!

D: Life is what's coming....not what was.

12:32 PM me: heheh
yeh kahan se aya
:D

D: pehle bata sahi hai na

12:33 PM me: yes

12:34 PM D: hmm ek friend ne forwrad message bheja

me: yes... we all are futuristic
so its kinda true

12:35 PM D: past cannot b changed present and future can b changed

12:36 PM me: well... agree a lil
not completely
present is a repurcussion of past
future will be the same too
those who believe in destiny... future cant be changed for them
12:37 PM and its written!!! :)

D: absolutely correct now it depends on us how far we want these repurcussions should take us

me: it has taken us this far
and its not abt how far they take us
12:38 PM u know one scientific fact!
forgetting something is never been proved, its just that we dont tend to remember!!! :)

12:40 PM D: human psychology is difficult to understand we all ve our point of view but then we create most of the situations in our life
and life is not wht has happened it is about wht is and wht will

12:41 PM me: what has happened has to do a lot with what it is and what will
12:42 PM we all carry a shadow of our past with us
its how we develop ourselves, and learn things
may it be speakin some language, knowing our parents or understanding wat relations mean to us

12:43 PM D: Past is a gr8 teacher i agree but it is not life
u cannot stick it on ur face and move ahead

me: but it makes life
isnt

12:44 PM D: a part of life
NOT LIFE

me: nothing is life then
life is a set which consists of multiple subsets
12:45 PM its an equation which cant be formed witout past
and the outcome definitely depends on how the past was for us
:)

12:46 PM D: its an equation which cant be formed witout past...but it cannot b formed without present and future two and if u c the ratio is higher here.

me: no my dear

D: is my friend

me: that where the difference is
the equations leads to present
12:47 PM and then present takes the form of the past
and future of present

12:48 PM D: i agree so the better U make ur present and future. The better will be the past and the equation of life will b set right

me: yes... but whats important is the past
isnt
:)

D: nah imp is wht u make it

me: as u said u agree
u agreed to the fact that its how the past shapes the present
12:49 PM and on which will depends the future!!! :)

D: not at all
i said u creat ur present n future which will become ur past
past is the result

12:50 PM me: hahah
now thats the funniest i have heard
past is the result
:P
we are moving ahead

D: it is

me: not from old to child
:P

12:51 PM D: arent u mixingtwo things

me: nope
i m not

D: when u get born thts ur present

me: i m pretty sure
without past incidents it would have been possible???

12:52 PM D: n when u become two days old ur first day is ur past

me: not at all
my birth in itself depends on some past events
nothing is new
it all depends on past

12:53 PM D: /;0
:)
u ve convinced urself well

me: u cant win with me in arguments.. but i rest my case
and arguments
and i agree to u
:)

12:54 PM D: it was a discussion
u c
hey why dont u post something like this on ur blog
n lets c wht ppl have to say

me: okie
will try it out
:)

D: cool



So guys... have a say!!! :)

69 comments:

Anonymous said...

past is gone, present is what you are and future is what u cud be or cud not be.

past shudnt have a bearing on today,though it has. present shudnt depend on past, it shud all be today....

jeena he to ab, muskurana he to ab...for rest switch on KANK and hear amitabh say the golden words at the end of 1st cd......

rayshma said...

i believe it's all interwoven. ur decisions today are ur past tomorrow. and we live out the consequences of our decisions. so what we do today... how we face it.. what we decide. is what creates a past and a future...
besides, neither the past nor the future are as crucial as the present.
as they say, 'focus on what is, rather than what was or what will be... and it will be what u want it to be'.

Am In Trance said...

I Say.....
Whats The Point Anyway ???
Amma Ek Hi Toh Zindagi Hai... Usko Bhi Arguments Mein Khatam Karna Hai Kya ???
Chilllll.....

Aarti said...

Interesting post...
Altho past is over and done with, it still comes along with us today and tomorrow as well.. infact sometimes i think we live our past, present and future all in one day... wat say???

couple of secs ago
now
couple of secs later... :D

aneri_masi said...

I say bahut bhaari type ka discussion hai. Brain gussa hoke shutdown ho gaya!

Hey, got all your messages...glad to know you missed me :)

Had a very busy weekend, and ghar ka internet was down. And crazy week ahead. So I might be "inactive" for a while.

Mysterious Mia said...

am zonked zonked zonked.....so i have no say

Solitaire said...

Your friend said..post something like this..not THIS!

I feel that the past is what made us who we are today and that is going to influence what we do tomorrow.

Keshi said...

I agree with u Ankur.


Past maybe over, but it's very much of who we are at Present..and will be in Future.


The thing abt life is everything gets 'old' pretty soon. Every minute we live is quickly moving into the PAST. Nothing is here to stay except this very moment...as I typed that, that too passed away into the PAST.


PAST makes alot of what we r!



Keshi.

Chakoli said...

Very true...

life is what is there in future and not what is gone but it is also correct as u said

present is a repurcussion of past
future will be the same too

never be repentant about ur any actions if it is gone but just give ur 100 % when it comes:-))

Keshi said...

and awwwwwww u got that song on here for me. HUGGGGGGGGGGGGZ Ankur n ty! U know how to make ppl feel so loved.



Keshi.

Scribblers Inc said...

I dunno...its funny!!:)

Scribblers Inc.

Cinderella said...

I think our yesterdays-todays and tomoros are all intertwined with each. Time is such a fluid matter, that it has the power to transcend any emotion and memoir to any point of life, and within a flash !

We may have painful experiences, and may want the yesterdays to be blurred outta vision but the fact they never do, and the today always get influenced by them, so in course of it the tomoro too.

Ans also being the insanely rational beings that we are we still will never cease to live or hope.

Live for the best-Hope for it too. No matter what !!

Deepika Lal Jotwani said...

All of u out there Thank you very much for posting ur opinions.
Well u must b thinking why m i thanking u? Cause it was Ankur n i who had this discussion.And i must say Ankur u ve a gr8 grp on ur blog.

All of us have written through our experiences and a bit of philosphical thoughts. But i agree to what Rayshma said, to quote her again 'focus on what is, rather than what was or what will be... and it will be what u want it to be'.

Also on a lighter note 'am in trance' has written something interesting
'I say..
Whats The Point Anyway ???
Amma Ek Hi Toh Zindagi Hai... Usko Bhi Arguments Mein Khatam Karna Hai Kya ???
Chilllll.....'

and i once again reinforce Life is wht is or whts coming ... not wht was.

Thanks once again.

The 'Mad' Orchid said...

Hey Ankur and Deepika
Nice n quite a discussion hehe :)
Now this can be said in two ways i believe therez no harm in going back and living in the past if it was somethng really happy but at times we regret we ws tht and coming to present we think of ways hw we could modify or rectify and regret or we plain n simple get nostalgic whereas future no one hs seen it..bt one cn plan to strive or atleast make a least minimum try hw she/he aspires for or to b in future but again we say the best way to lead a life is Living in d moment..so i guess life changes every moment and the comment im writin again becomes past :P so lets take life hw it comes..
live the past so tht u live and see the present future of urz as shining as ever..
DID I MAKE SENSE...PLS HELP ME..I TEND TO BECOME NONSENSICAL AT SUCH PHILO N THOT PROVOKING POSTS :p
Cheers to the both ya
take cre :)

Cinderella said...

You there on gmail buddy ? I am sending you an invite now.

Macadamia The Nut said...

Don't know about others, but for me the past is very important. Because each memory is a lesson learnt, which is not to be repeated again to spoil my future. :) If I forget that, then I'll be recreating 'history' again and again and again...

Gunjan Aylawadi said...

im confused myself!

Pri said...

they say "the key to a happy future is a forgotten past"...
but i think u should never forget the past...just so that u dont repeat the same mistakes again! :)

Hitesh said...

There is an assumption here that our past is a constant phenomena and it does not change. But past is nothing but an interpretation of events that we experienced in our life. I dont know about the others but I have interpreted same past in many different ways at different points of time in my life. So I think even our past keeps changing and if we buy this view past, present and future are nothing but an experience and interpretation of that experience according to our ethics and value system. Some of it I read in a book.

aneri_masi said...

first of all, you make us read this looooooong discussion, then you make us comment, then you don't reply for two days.

Bahut na-insaafi hai!

Ankur said...

@Aneri

aaj karoonga!!
thodi tabiyat down hai!! :(

Ankur said...

@Ashu

**present shudnt depend on past, it shud all be today....

hows this truly possible???
Present is a repurcussion of past, it DEPENDS on past totally!! :)

though i agree with the lines of KANK too, but for me it means...
Live d present to the fullest!!! :)

Cheers!!!

Ankur said...

@rayshma

**how we face it.. what we decide. is what creates a past and a future...

what we decide can create past!!
are you talkin abt thinking the way past was?

**'focus on what is, rather than what was or what will be... and it will be what u want it to be'.

they say a lot, they also say that watever u do, nor can u change ur past, neither ur future!!!

Cheers!!!

Ankur said...

@Am in trance

**Amma Ek Hi Toh Zindagi Hai... Usko Bhi Arguments Mein Khatam Karna Hai Kya ???

amma insaan hai, janwar toh hai nahi... jo khai piyo aur so jao!!!
lolzzz

Cheers!!!

Ankur said...

@Am in trance

**Amma Ek Hi Toh Zindagi Hai... Usko Bhi Arguments Mein Khatam Karna Hai Kya ???

amma insaan hai, janwar toh hai nahi... jo khai piyo aur so jao!!!
lolzzz

Cheers!!!

Ankur said...

@Aneri_masi

**Brain gussa hoke shutdown ho gaya!

nahi plz...jagao usse!!! :D

**Hey, got all your messages...glad to know you missed me :)

yep... a lot!! :)

**Had a very busy weekend, and ghar ka internet was down. And crazy week ahead. So I might be "inactive" for a while.


yaar plzz... no hibernation from u!!! :(

jagoooooooooo....
not... bhagoooooooooooo

lolzzzz

Cheers!!!

Ankur said...

@Princess

hehe... babe u r (n i m ) possible!! ;)
hehe

Cheers!!!!

Ankur said...

@Solitaire

**I feel that the past is what made us who we are today and that is going to influence what we do tomorrow.


true.. absolutely!!! :)

Cheers!!!

Ankur said...

@Keshi

thnxx for agreeing!! :D

** Nothing is here to stay except this very moment...

ya... as this momemnt is over too as u read!! :)

Cheers!!

Ankur said...

@Chakoli

**life is what is there in future and not what is gone

how u can u even say that.. i dont know whether i wil be alive tomorrow... then how can i say its in future..

they always say.... u have lived a life, not like u r gonna live a life!!! :)

**never be repentant about ur any actions if it is gone but just give ur 100 % when it comes:-))

agree!!!
but thats lateral thinking!! :)

Cheers!!!

Ankur said...

@Keshi

:D :D
hugz in returns babeh!! :D
how was d bday?? :D

Cheers!!!

Ankur said...

@Scribblers

n i find ur comment funny then.. :P

thnx for droppin by! :)

Cheers!!

Ankur said...

@Ella

**Time is such a fluid matter, that it has the power to transcend any emotion and memoir to any point of life, and within a flash !

now that sounds brainy!! :D
not kidding but that sounds too good to me!! :D

**Ans also being the insanely rational beings that we are we still will never cease to live or hope.

yes... but we live and hope with a shadow of past!! :)

Cheers!!!

Ankur said...

@Dipika

thanks for ur reply ;)

Cheers!!!

Ankur said...

@Maddie

u made a lot of sense... :)

and u r right maddie... life changes every moment!! :)

Take Care,
Cheers!!!

Ankur said...

@Ella

accepted mate!! :)

Cheers!!!

Ankur said...

@Macadamia the nut

**each memory is a lesson learnt, which is not to be repeated again to spoil my future.

yes... true!! :)

Cheers!!!

Ankur said...

@Gunj

now thats a true reply!! :D
dont be so confused pal... :)
come out of all the confusions and live the present!!! :)

Cheers!!!

Ankur said...

@Pri

yes...but more than that it also helps us decide what to make the present.
isnt!!

Cheers!!!

Ankur said...

@Hitesh

philosphical as u may sound!! :D

**So I think even our past keeps changing and if we buy this view past, present and future are nothing but an experience and interpretation of that experience according to our ethics and value system.

yes i guess thats wat even Rashmya said above!!!

we buy it, if its happy ppl wanna live in it, if its sour, ppl wanna come out!!!

We r human afterall!! :)

Cheers!!!

Ankur said...

@Aneri

hehe.. naahi huzoor nainsafi nahi hai!!!

kara abhi reply...
thoda headache tha and some work too... so wasnt replyin!! :D

how u doing btw!!! :)

Take Care
Cheers!!!

Chakoli said...

Thats hope dear...

we ll live tomorrow:-))

and never shud stop hoping:-)))

Nopes not lateral thinking...
wt is gone just accept it... andforget it...but not the lesson:-))

Nitin said...

What abt this ..
I will say present is more important in forming (changing) ones future.. Past can change the present, but present can change the future. For e.g say XYZ incident happened in the past which changes u r mindset, so present is the outcome of past but say now (present) an incident happened which is just opposite of XYZ.. so now what will be future, mix of past and present ....
And it is the intensity of present incident which decides the future..
so future keeps on changing based on our present action. (and not decided by past)

g-man said...

the past is forever inside us, whether we choose to try and forget it or not. consciously or unconsciously, it shapes our present and our future. you can't say that your past doesn't matter, it always does. it catches up with you at some point or the other. its whether you choose to listen to what it has to say that determines everything. but we can't live in the past and let the present die. if there is no present, then there will be no future, and the past would've been pointless even to us...

Cinderella said...

Oye ! Kya chal raha hai ?!

Ankur said...

@Ella

kuch nahi yaar.. tu kal offline hui uske baad aaj tak koi pata nahi... chitthi na koi sandesh!!! :o

??
kahan??

Cяystal said...

Well.
Your friend asked you to post something similar to this,na?
then why did you post THIS?

Eh!..
Well,I'm a person who lives in the present.And whatever we did in the past has an impact on the present..and whatever we do in the present..has an impact on our futre.
A li'l complex,but thats tha!!
And living in the past..(memories etc)..is wrong..'cos the decisions we take are never wrong..the RESULT is wrong..hehe..(Dialog hai).

Nice blog.
Do visit mines if you get time!

Anonymous said...

if ur present depends on past, then past is a vicious circle that wont ever go. and u hv to screw ur past one time or the other........

get me ?

past shud be shut the door the day it becomes a thing of yore....

tough to do, but then thats how it is...

Cinderella said...

Buddy you're the best !!!

THE BEST !!!!!

Just read your comment. You totally made my day. And how nice if feels I know someone like you !!!

*hugs*

RADhika said...

it is very much interdependent... whatever has been done in the past, will sure have a reflection in the present... but then it is upto us to decide on which thing to spend time on ..

oh and completed the tag.. have a look at it! :)

Lena said...

present is something based on past experiences and mistakes because our memories and past actions, mistakes, hopes, expectations from the past make us who we are in the present.
On the other side present is the past for the future hence the only things that matters. Of course without the past we wouldnt be the way we are now and without the dreams about future we again wouldnt be like we are now which only means that in the end it all connects to the present. Else why would we concentrate on something else? It only distracts. You take what you think is useful from the past and the future and keep on living now, thats what i think :)

PS: love the song :)

aneri_masi said...

how's the tabiyat now?
better? you've been really quiet last few days!

Am In Trance said...

Bhai... Jaanwar Hi To Hain Hum..
Khao, Piyo, Kaam Karo, So Jao...
Agle Din Phir Same Story....
Haan, Kabhi Kabhi Fursat Mile Toh Kuch Aur Bhi Kar Lete Hain...
Bata, Yeh Zindagi Bhi Koi Zindagi Hai Bangdu ???
**(Frm The Movie Padosan)...!!!
Hehe...
:)

Ankur said...

@Chakoli

wat is gone, accpeted... but forgetting, thats the difficult part!! :)

i have hope though!!! :)

Cheers!!!

Ankur said...

@Nitin

well, argument slightly confused!!!
in future present become past and future become present!! :)

so everything we have done or we r gonna do, will impact, isnt!!! :)


Cheers!!!

Ankur said...

@G-man

well said!!!

but tell me if i forget my past, will it be any easier to live!!! :)

Cheers!!!

Ankur said...

@Anyushi

friends dont mind, dontya worry!! :)

dialog well said!! :)

thnx 4 droppin by..
will visit u soon!!! :)

Cheers!!!

Ankur said...

@Ashu

agree that we have to screw it some time or other, but there is a right time in future which make tat happen!!

yes.. tough!!
will think over it!! :)

Cheers!!!

Ankur said...

@Ella

oye... i m not the best!!! :D
hehe

its nice to know someone like u... :)

*hugz*

Cheers!!!

Ankur said...

@Radhika

well, u r right!!!
but sometimes u remember the old times and then think, its not worth rememberin now!!
i think i m going through that...

so i think i m forgettin it a lil!! :)

will check the tag by today!! :D
Cheers!!

Ankur said...

@Lena

well said.. :)

but arent dreams something which is so not realistic!!! :)

Cheers!!!

Ankur said...

@Aneri_Masi

ab better hai!!
ya, a lil quiet!!! :)

Cheers!!!

Ankur said...

@Am in trance

hehe.. nahi bhai, aisa nahi hai yaar.. we r humans!!

like the way u take everything lighthearted!!!
but sometime life doesnt give u a chance!! :)
wish that never happens with u!!

Cheers!!!

Lena said...

**
but arent dreams something which is so not realistic!!!

it's all up to you, nobody disturbs you to make them realistic considering that you are 100% positive that thats exactly what you need

g-man said...

it is quite impossible to forget, is it not? you remember subconsciously

Ankur said...

@Lena

yes... :)
u r right again!! :D

Cheers!!!

Ankur said...

@G-man

not necessarily at times, depends on the time duration it has been!!! :)

CheerS!!!

g-man said...

not really...i still remember the things i did as a kid of 3. fortunately, i don't do that any more though :)

IncorrigibleV said...

i only have one lil thing to say: life is NOW, the moment and not anything else, what has been and what will/can be ie the past and future are what u might term as factors but life essentially remains a string of those NOW moments...
did i make sense?